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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
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Posted - 2012.11.10 02:15:00 -
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Hey , do not cry about FW missions.
Those are just what players wanted. On original FW version no one did those missions, but then comes militia CSM candidates who wanted good income for FW players to make isk for pvp, and we sure made isk after several boosts.
Sad thing is that no one has done any pvp after that. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:15:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Hey , do not cry about FW missions.
Those are just what players wanted. On original FW version no one did those missions, but then comes militia CSM candidates who wanted good income for FW players to make isk for pvp, and we sure made isk after several boosts.
Sad thing is that no one has done any pvp after that. No one did missions in pre-Inferno? What are you smoking?
you are so young player that you do not even know what i am talking about. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:28:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Damar Rocarion wrote:Dread Operative wrote:Use your alt to plex then you ninny. The reason is to stabilize FW item prices. Or how about you use your main, AND TAKE SOME SYSTEMS!!!!! Gasp!!!! Why the f.ck I should do what you want when the option is to do what I want? And why would I engage in pointless activity where CCP already stacked the deck for your benefit like they have done for years now. Most likely you would whine for another change if for some reason you get permanently kicked from your Tier 4 and CCP would only be too happy to oblige. Well that's a bunch of QQ'ing right there. You're only permently kicked because YOU gave up. You don't see Happy Ending quitting, no, you see them taking systems and chasing out plexers. I've stayed in Gal Mil almost the whole time, even when we were getting stomped by the initial alt army and Ive never quit like you guys have. Guess its just a character thing.
Gallente is only who is taking systems. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:37:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Schalac wrote:
Except that the way the plex mechanic worked at the start of Inferno was the same mechanic that was around for years. All they did was added LP for completing them. How people thought that this was going to drive more PvP is beyond me.
It's beyond Cearain too. Unfortunately for you both, PVP has picked up quite a bit since they implemented the LP for plexes policy. Check the killboards. Do you want to know why? People are farming plexes in pvp ships - more people are out in space and available for fights when they occur. (They are not out of theater or in pve ships trying to make isk)
Thing is that if you bring group of people who can dominate plex warfare those farmers with pvp ships are gone and no one can make them come back to die again and again.
FW still lack possibility to force enemy to fight, as you see LP for plexes is not really working, some caldari players may seek some pvp from gallente farmers but there is no real fight for systems.
This current system has different reasons for different side to plex.
If you want easy isk you join gallente side and farm.
If you want to roleplay caldari you join caldari and try to take systems with small rewards.
Now we can think why would role play reason work when it did not work before. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:41:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You cannot make other people do what you want them to.
Sure you can, but that is something you do not seem to know how to do. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:46:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Dread Operative wrote:Damar Rocarion wrote:Dread Operative wrote:Use your alt to plex then you ninny. The reason is to stabilize FW item prices. Or how about you use your main, AND TAKE SOME SYSTEMS!!!!! Gasp!!!! Why the f.ck I should do what you want when the option is to do what I want? And why would I engage in pointless activity where CCP already stacked the deck for your benefit like they have done for years now. Most likely you would whine for another change if for some reason you get permanently kicked from your Tier 4 and CCP would only be too happy to oblige. Well that's a bunch of QQ'ing right there. You're only permently kicked because YOU gave up. You don't see Happy Ending quitting, no, you see them taking systems and chasing out plexers. I've stayed in Gal Mil almost the whole time, even when we were getting stomped by the initial alt army and Ive never quit like you guys have. Guess its just a character thing. Gallente is only who is taking systems. vaaralen, mushikegi and soon to be korasen and okagaiken would like a word with you. We have lost system that we didnt defend and/or no one lived there. Caldari have lost systems that no one defended or very few/no one lived there. It is perfectly reasonable that one guy should not be able to defend a system with a few alts. The new system expresses that reason and is why it was a very large step in the right direction. While i have no doubt that if these changes came in when expected and caldari were in our position, that you would be here explaining how fair the new system really is. So i have very little sympathy. The little sympathy i have just makes me think that defensive plexing is a little op and perhaps should drop from 75%lp to 50%, but tbh we are still losing systems. Fact is that to take a system it now needs a concentrated PVP effort, you clearly became too accustomed to systems being farmed by alts and going vulnerable within 3 days with no effort. Thankfully those days are gone.
no one is going to play this new FW after they really understand what it this all about. New rats may little help the situation but i doubt it is not enough.
Even if caldari has tier 2 income is less than from highsec lvl4 missions with current rats so no wonder people do not want to plex. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.12 12:49:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:
You cannot make other people do what you want them to.
Sure you can, but that is something you do not seem to know how to do. Another pearl of wisdom from some guy crying on the forums.
Maybe you will learn on some day that whole EVE is about manipulation others minds to get what you want. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.13 22:49:00 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:Don't mission myself. But I think they are fine, if a faction takes over an entire Warzone and decimate their enemy it ensures they can consistently still make LP.
actually not really, with tier 1 you will get only 0.5x of rewards while enemy gets 3.25x rewards. So if agent tell you that you will get 25000lp actually with tier 1 you will get 12500 and with tier5 you will get 81250 lp. Also you have to note that if you lose all systems you will lose all lowsec agents so you get actually much less lp than just 50%.
So there is just no point to try to grind any isk on losing side, better to join winners and make easy isk.
And if you want to pvp i am sure there is pvp on every side, at least for now. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2012.11.16 18:17:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Cearain wrote:X Gallentius wrote:No wonder you're complaining so much. Come to Fliet for the next couple of days. The pirates here are very active and you can get fights within 10 minutes of logging on. Almost guaranteed. And there are plenty of FDU guys who will try to kill you as well.
I will do that. I am not that familiar with the area. So I will need to find a system close to the action I can put some ships in. Preferably one that is fw neutral so I can access them later if I want. High sec is fine I'm only -3. Actee is high sec and it is adjacent for Fliet (a system which is the focus of a lot of plexing right now) and Heyd (one of the main gallente home systems: Also Nisuwa and Nennamaila are home systems for gallente). I get most of my pew pew up around the Kedama area. If you are interested in that area, Rakapas is a very good system to base out of (the most powerful caldari alliance bases out of there). It has easy access to Nennamaila, Nisuwa AND Heyd. I highly recommend Rakapas for your base of operations - it is a little bit out from Fliet (but only 5 jumps) but a lot of caldari base there, and it's central to the main gallente hubs.
i recommend Villore. |
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